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Poster: cvenez Date: Oct 28, 2011 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Downloadable Dead Releases?

I don't know if this has been brought up before (kinda new to the forum section of archive), but does anyone know if whoever is responsible for the music releases at Dead.net has any intentions of making downloadable versions of the newer stuff? It's rare that I buy CDs anymore, and when I do, they get relegated to a box in my basement after I copy them to iTunes. As such, I haven't bought any of the more recent releases (Road Trips, Europe 72 shows, Dave's Picks etc.) because I can't bring myself to spend the money on something I'll probably look at once (like the packaging and booklets) and then forget about.

I mention this mostly because I find it odd that a band that was light years ahead of the rest of the music industry in terms of making their music readily available to their fans seems to be taking a big step backward with having their new releases only available in CD format at a time when CD sales are plummeting in general.

That being said, I already know which of the shows I'll buy on CD if they never become available as downloads...


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Poster: scotch_glass Date: Oct 28, 2011 6:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

It seems like the Download Series was a year or two ahead of it's time, I think if they reintroduced this idea with the new releases as well as past releases, this would be a huge, HUGE success. Perhaps this is why they are hyping the new Dave's Picks as limited release, there will be a ton of demand for these shows in a digital format, the 12,000 must just be their estimate on people who are dedicated enough to still listening to CD's to subscribe. I don't understand why they wouldn't PREFER to have digital only releases at this point in time, one would think you could make more money selling a metaphysical product as opposed to a packaged physical product that takes time, labor and additiona resources to produce.

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Poster: gratefuldiver Date: Oct 29, 2011 12:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

Anyone know if the CD versus downloading issue for music is comperable to the Netflix excuse for separating DVD rental versus streaming?

Non-dead but hysterical, satirical explanation for the original Netflix decision to separate services here: http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/1593.html

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Oct 28, 2011 11:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

nugs.net has several releases available in FLAC and mp3, but none that are particularly recent...

http://nugs.net/Grateful_Dead.htm

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Oct 28, 2011 7:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

For a while, deadnetstore was offering Dick's Picks too, and probably also other releases, as FLAC or mp3 downloads, as an alternative to buying the CDs. I haven't checked recently, but I'm assuming they've stopped that?

One advantage of CDs if you play them through an HDCD decoder is that you get four more bits of information than normal 26-bit FLAC files, but they could improve even on that if they made 24-bit files available for download. If only...

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Oct 28, 2011 2:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

they had a download series a few years back. I dont think it went that well so they ceased production. Other than that I don't think there is any downloading of any releases. The time will come, certainly. Some of these releases will be too rare and too in demand that they music must get out. Or they'll do some limited edition bullshit like Dick's Picks part 2, gold edition.

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Poster: cvenez Date: Oct 28, 2011 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

I do have several of the Download Series releases, and I really liked those. I figured it probably didn't go over well as a whole though, which as you say is probably why they axed it. Oh well. Perhaps at a later date the downloads will return...

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Oct 28, 2011 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

I saw a website, can't remember where, but I think it was last year.. They still had the Download series for sale there. Don't know if it was amazon, or itunes or myspace (possibly). But I think it was one of the well-known places. I don't really use any of them that much, but I browse around sometimes. I see you have some of the Download series, I didn't get any of them, but some I already have from the Archive. Any that you really recommend? I kind of had my eye on that April 77 one but never got around to it. Also June 19, 1976, and a couple from '68,69,70 & 72 (71, maybe, can't remember??). you would think that Dead.net would just have it available as a service to buy these ones still as a download. I'm with you on that, but I do still like buying a cd release when I can afford it and it's one I really want. Hell, I want it all someday.. I guess it's just down to my budget. I have put most all of my Dead cds and a lot of the rest of my collection on my hard drive, but I still prefer playing the cd usually. I just use the mp3s for bringing with me on my mp3 player - sometimes to work, in the car, or in my headphones when I'm on a walkabout, or lying in bed having Dead Dreams to Another Land. But still usually cd's. I rarely listen to my tapes any more, but once in a while, I suppose that is nostalgia, and maybe my cd's will hold that place someday as a key to my past. If that is even Right to say, because this music will always be a part of my life, past, present and future. I know I'm not alone here.

I just went on a hunch. I have found a place that sells most all of the band's releases as downloads. I have bought a few things from a few different bands here. It is also run by nugs.net, who have a lot of free stuff, that's how it all started a few years back.

http://www.livedownloads.com/searchRes.aspx?searchStr=grateful+dead&;x=0&y=0

But I see you really were asking about the newer stuff, so, maybe this isn't help to you, but hopefully someone will benefit from my post, hate to be a waste of space. Don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothing new to say. And all that.
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Poster: cvenez Date: Oct 29, 2011 8:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Downloadable Dead Releases?

I do have the 4/30/77 Download Series release and think it's great. It's basically a May 77 show and I think most would agree you can't go wrong there. It's definitely one that makes it into my regular rotation. I also really like the one from 4/2&3/89 (volume 9 I think). I'm not much of a fan of later day Dead, but these 2 shows are a great example of what they were still capable of at the time.

You can also still download any of the Dick's Picks shows, but I think as far as live releases go it's only those and the Download Series that are available digitally. Everything after that is CD only for whatever reason. Somebody said they thought the Download Series was probably just a little ahead of it's time and if it came out now would probably do better. I tend to agree...